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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

Thankyou for this article. I well recall a wonderful presentation of the success of Covid-19 early treatment in Honduras which included using high flow oxygen rather than ventilators. They started out as one of the hardest hit countries in the world, with extremely limited critical care physicians and almost no ICU facilities. The interviewer kept asking and asking, how did you pull it off to engage the entire country: As a I recall, Top justice of Supreme court, wife of the President and others in the cabinet were successfully treated leading to the government to get behind it. There were outsiders involved with their work, one may have been Peter McCullough. This was done in 2020.

I dragged my wife down to see this miracle. It made no impression. I have been following this for years and she went ahead and got 4 shots. So far I think she is OK, but I am worried that there will be serious adverse events. I also dragged her to watch the success story in Imperial Valley in CA - on border with Mexico and Arizona and at the time 7,000 Covid patients and none to the hospital. Now they are up to 20,000 and with early treatment, as I recall, none had long Covid.

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

What has been forgotten or perhaps never learned is that the practice of medicine is an art that uses science it is not straight forward like auto repair. In fine arts we are quite aware that everyone given the same box of art supplies and tools will not produce the same quality finished work. The skill of those holding the tools determines the outcome and no policy can change human ability.

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

Some doctors early on recommended the opposite of vents were needed. Hyperbaric oxygen chambers were needed instead and never supplied. Interns would have actually known this. All of these fake protocols were done to kill the patients on purpose.

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I believe that the happy hypoxia observed was due to the COVID-19 virus impairing zeta potential and causing impaired microcirculation in the periphery (where pulse oxygenation is measured) but not in the central blood supply (which has larger blood vessels and is thus harder to obstruct with microclotting).

I tried to explain this principle more here:

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/why-does-every-vaccine-often-cause

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

Dr Kory, did you have any experience with doctor's wanting patients ventilated because 'ventilated patients don't cough'?

I have heard part of the justification for ventilation was to prevent spread of covid, which if true, erodes any trust I had in the medical establishment even further.

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Feb 23, 2023·edited Feb 23, 2023

Excellent info, thanks again for all you have done and continue to do. Perhaps a bit of a tangent, but have you witnessed many cases (COVID and non-COVID) where some doctors said a patient was impossible to wean off the ventilator and would have to be ventilator-dependent for the rest of their lives (if they live), but since their families persisted and didn't give up, the patients were in fact able to successfully wean very gradually- and fully breathing on their own a few weeks after leaving the hospital? I have seen this multiple times, so was just wondering.

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Very interesting! I am also curious about your thoughts in using oxygen level as the sole metric to decide when to give corticosteroids. I am coming from personal experience with covid pneumonia. For five days I could only take in very small breaths, my pulse oximeter reading would drop to 84% on slight exertion (like going to the restroom) but I was not given dexamethasone because my reading stayed around 96% at rest. I ended up taking quinine at home, which seemed to give me dramatic improvement. (Yes, I know that is anecdotal.)

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

What a wonderful and informative article. Learned so much and I'm always grateful to have more knowledge on a subject. Especially anything medical. I do wish more medical personnel would just take the time to look, really look, at the patient before making any decision whether it be a procedure or a medication.

Thank you for all your work. Also, the "horses again" gave me a little giggle.

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

Dr. Kory you have ethics, morals and use the brain God gave you. Your opponents contrarily had an agenda.

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

I remember reading about the hypoxia on Facebook, if you can believe that! There was a Dr on arguing against the automatic ventilation of Covid patients because they came in resembling high altitude sickness. So to me it sounded like the RBC’s were not oxygenated fully. I am not a Dr by any means, just a retired veterinary technician that put stuff together.

When they stated the official protocol was around 6mg. of a corticosteroid per day, even I knew that was not enough to make a dent. A 100 pound dog would get between 20-40mg.

Thank you for your relentless pursuit of the truth. I’m not Vx and neither is my family. We have our own supply of IVM and HCQ along with Z packs and Prednisone.

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

Outstanding Dr Kory! You are a true hero of these past few years! Thank you and God bless.

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

They tried to put my 67yo husband on a vent in May 21’ after a week of him being unable to keep his oxygen up with the nasty alpha variant at home. If only they had prescribed him some steroids he probably could have avoided the hospital. It was very surprising how it kicked his ass, as he works out regularly, literally never gets sick, and we took all the recommended supplements. He was however on lisinopril for highish BP. I’ve read it increases ace2 receptors? Maybe that’s why? We tried ivermectin for a week but in hind sight should have continued longer. Once we ran out, that’s when he went downhill. I argued with one of his many attending physicians the second day he was there, and said over my dead body will you vent him! I didn’t however know about Remdezavir. And he was on that for five days. Amazingly he’s doing great now almost two years later. And we had omicron in Jan 22’ and it was a cold with a 4 day headache. Not even a sniffle since, 14 mos later. Hoping natural immunity will continue but have ivermectin on hand just in case.

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

It is good to read an article written by a doctor who actually uses critical thinking. I appreciate all that you have done and continue to do to inform, treat, and protect others. Thank you, Dr. Kory. You and your family are in my prayers.

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I was one of those "happy hypoxic" patients. I was 49 at the time, and it's a miracle I survived. I was hospitalized for covid Dec. '21. After being in the hospital for 1 week, my oxygen saturation monitor was alarming for dropping to 89 more often than they liked, so they decided to put me on a BIPAP. After about 10 minutes, they decided that was a failure, and decided to intubate me. I did not want to be intubated. Never once, in all of that, did I have trouble doing the work of breathing. I ended up having a tracheostomy a couple weeks later, but only after they convinced my husband to sign a DNR for me (they told him if they had to try to resuscitate me, they would break my ribs, puncture my heart, and I'd be a vegetable if I survived). I ended up being on a ventilator for 35 days. My muscles had atrophied and I had to relearn how to write and walk. I spent a total of 2 months in the hospital. I was also lucky all the LTACs were full. Because of that, I was able to go directly home, where I'm sure I recovered much faster. It is over a year later, and I still require supplemental oxygen while sleeping and with exertion. I have gotten to where I can mosey slowly around the house without the supplemental oxygen, and my saturation stays above 90 if I don't get too wild. When sitting, my sat is usually 95-98%. I'm angry about what was done to me and how it has changed my life and the lives of my husband and children. But I'm blessed to be alive still with them. I almost wasn't.

Dr. Kory, do you think there's much chance I'll ever be able to totally be off oxygen?

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Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

I’ve been waiting for a post on the subject, thank you, Dr. Kory! Oh, how many countless lives you saved by blocking the use ventilators for Covid treatment! I wish every Covid patient who walked through the doors of that hospital (and other institutions that followed your recommendation ), would read this and acknowledge your wisdom and heroism!

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Feb 23, 2023·edited Feb 23, 2023Liked by Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

Doc, Great read for the non professional . Thank you

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